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Thursday, March 14, 2019
Disinformation – the new weapon of Republicans
Recently Mr. Ben Shapiro published a short video titled: “Was America founded on slavery?”
This video is a classic case of BS (as well as, I’m sure, all other his videos, because they have only one purpose – to lie; see below why).
The video follows the well-established strategy for creating disinformation (read, for example, “Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism” by Ronald J. Rychlak Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa; this book gives a great intro into what disinformation is, and how it is made up and used: https://www.amazon.com/Disinformation-Strategies-Undermining-Attacking-Promoting-ebook/dp/B01ED2THK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511407647&sr=8-1&keywords=disinformation+book).
First, we hear that “some people say this”.
No one specifically, no names, no citations, just “some people”.
And then we hear arguments against “this what was said” – which is a lie (but to camouflage the lie, the author always throws in several well-known facts, too).
One more time, the strategy follows theses simple steps:
1. invent a statement which no one makes
2. attribute this statement to your political enemies
3. attack the statement ("debunk" it)
4. point your finger at your political enemies and say - "they are wrong, I am right!"
The central lie (presented as an argument) is always invented by the author, in this case by Mr. Shapiro.
In the video, for example, the central lie is: “Leftists tell us that America was founded on slavery” and “pretend that unites states was unique regardless slavery”.
Again - no names, no actual citations.
Because they do not exist.
There is no respectful historian who would ever said or wrote that “America was FOUNDED on slavery” – this is the myth, or, fake statement, or – using old fashioned language – just a lie.
As well as there is no respectful historian who would “pretend that unites states was unique regardless slavery”.
Because every educated person knows that America was not founded on slavery.
As an educated person, I say that some people have been saying that Mr. Ben Shapiro is the master of BS.
But I would disagree with those some people, because what he says is far far from being a work of a master.
There are some facts in the video, which people who never get to learn actual history would find interesting, so the video may have some value as means to popularize history, and to ignite interest to it (like the years when slavery was ended in different countries).
Among others, there is another specific lie I would like to point at; Mr. Shapiro says “the war was to free the slaves”. Did he do it on purpose, or he is just ignorant? Not sure (both?). But the civil war was to preserve the unity of the States. Among the reasons threatening that unity was, of course, slavery.
But even today there are people who would love to return back to slavery, maybe not in the same form, maybe in a “softer” form, like political, economic, intellectual domination, using all means available to deprive people of color from being truly socially and economically equal.
And those people put forward people like Mr. Shapiro to invent and present a net of scientifically-looking but completely false statements (a.k.a. disinformation, a.k.a. lies).
So, watch out!
And ask yourself a question: “Why does Mr. Shapiro and people behind him defend a statement which no one – except them! – makes?”
Because they are scared.
They are scared to lose the power.
They are scared to lose the power due to upcoming changes in the U.S. demographic (more on this topic here: http://the3dforce.blogspot.com/2017/07/peering.html).
They do all they can to “water down” the effect the slavery had and still has on the United States; to make the history of slavery be just one of many historic facts, which – yes – happened in the past, but – like rotary phones – just died out, and should be just forgotten.
Because, IF the slavery would be “not a big deal, other countries had it, too, and it did not play any major role in the history of the States”, then “there is no reason” to focus on the millions of people of color who for decades have been purposely held at the fringes of the political, social and economic life. Hence, “why bother”, “we all are equal”, and “if they don’t have what we have, it is not our fault”.
Every time when someone says “slavery is not important any more, we can forget it happened”, what he or she actually means is: “I hate when any resources go to help politically, economically, or socially disadvantaged people to advance their political, economic, and social status, because I don’t want to share anything with them”.
Ironically, many of those people call themselves a "Christian".
Naturally, Mr. Shapiro is not alone in his endeavor toward b@#lsh@#ing people, for example, check this link: http://the3dforce.blogspot.com/2017/04/mmoore.html
Currently, progressives of all sort are busy with fashioning a big fiery GALA (http://the3dforce.blogspot.com/2017/11/3dforcedown.html).
At the same time Regressive Republicans developed a network of disinformation.
Who is a real revolutionary here?
After watching the video, I placed two comments. Then some people responded to my comments, and I responded to them – it is good way to advancing one’s arguments and debating skills.
Below is that conversation.
To Valentin Voroshilov:
"'Leftists tell us that America was founded on slavery' and 'pretend that unites states was unique regardless slavery'. Again - no names, no actual citations. Why? Because they do not exist."
They do exist. Either you are ignorant or you're being dishonest. Michelle Obama said the United States was founded on slavery. The Young Turks also regurgitate the same talking point. Perhaps you have never heard of Franchesca Ramsey? Let's also not forget Jesse Jackson, Michael Eric Dyson, Al Sharpton, Boyce Watkins, Ben Jealous, Tim Wise, Noel Iganatiev, Jeremiah White, John Henrik Clarke, Ward Churchill, Howard Zinn, James Loewen, and Toure Neblette just to name a few more. There's also publications such as BuzzFeed and Vox that also spew the nonsense of America being founded on slavery.
You should put aside your complacency and do a simple google search.
"There is no respectful historian who would ever said or wrote that 'America was FOUNDED on slavery' – this is the myth, or, fake statement, or – suing old fashioned language – just a lie."
That depends on who you consider a "respectful" historian. The left hails Ward Churchill and Howard Zinn. Both are required reading for many history classes in college. However I digress because neither of these two are actual historians even though many on the left hold them as such.
"There is one lie I would like to point at, Mr. Shapiro says 'the war was to free the slaves'."
Alexander Stephens, who was Vice President of the Confederacy, said that "slavery is the foundation of the Confederacy" in his Cornerstone Speech. Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina all cited slavery as their primary reason for secession from the Union. Jefferson Davis called the Emancipation Proclamation an execrable measure. The Confederate Constitution even bans the abolition of slavery. That should seal the deal on the issue of slavery. Southern denial over slavery as a cause for war comes only after the Civil War ended as a justification for secession. It still lingers to this day. You can make the case the most Southern soldiers didn't fight for slavery, but the government they fought for did (as already laid out above).
"And even till these days there are people who would love to return back to slavery, maybe not in the same form, in a 'softer' form, like political, economic, intellectual domination, using all means available to deprive people of color from being truly socially and economically equal."
Amazing... How to put your own double standard into perspective? I know. How did you phrase it? "No one specifically, no names, no citations, just 'some people'." "Again - no names, no actual citations." Well? Care to address the fact that you blatantly contradicted yourself here Voroshilov? Thanks for clocking in.
1. Love to see people who can quote.
2. I KNOW people who would love to return back to slavery in a "soft form ", those people are not in the news, so their names will not matter, and that is good for me, because I do NOT make any generalization here. I just say - those people do exist. And they do.
3. Thank you for accepting that for the Confederacy the war was to save the slavery. But it does NOT logically mean that for the opponents (you know who there are, right) the war ALSO was about the same thing; that type of a statement is one of many false equivalence, which work for people who do not trace logical steps.
4. Thanks for trying to reason!
P.S. almost forgot, please, send a link to the transcripts (!) of the Obama's (for example) speech with the exact statement "America was founded on slavery".
To Valentin Voroshilov:
No, the Civil War was to keep slavery in the South. The North Democrats very clearly saw that "white lives" were being sacrificed for "black slavery", and they didn't like it. Abolitionists saw it as a war to free the slaves, and were wholeheartedly behind it, and saw Lincoln as dragging his feet. Lincoln was desperately trying to keep the Union together, and eventually realized that (A) that wasn't going to happen unless slavery was abolished and (B) the war actually provided the best possible way to free the slaves in the South anyway. But the war absolutely was about slavery. It wouldn't have happened without slavery, slavery was clearly the core reason behind every major player in the South and the only message of the South, and the end of slavery was the only major shift due to the war. Oh, and if you don't know who is saying that America was founded on slavery...just turn on freaking MSNBC for a few hours. I can't imagine how you've possibly missed it.
So...the Confederacy was fighting to save slavery... from people who weren't fighting to get rid of it. Yes, _ that makes perfect sense._ Let me know when you've sorted out that particular logical mess.
Nice return, I like the term “logical mess”,
It is like saying that
America was FOUNDED on the event which happened 84 years AFTER is was founded.
Classic!! In case you need some reference and have no history book handy: Go to the internet and search “when was America founded” (but do not fall for the “Independence Day” movie – that is a fantasy set in the future!).
Then go to the internet and search for “when did Southern states secede from the Union?”
Then write down the years for each event.
Then subtract – you may need a calculator, but those are cheap these days. BTW: do not put in my mouth the words I didn’t say – also classic trick of lairs. I said: quote “the civil war was to preserve the unity of the States. Among the reasons threatening that unity was slavery, of course.”
“the civil war was to preserve the UNITY of the States”
Many people want to “water down” the effect the slavery had and still has on the United States; to make the history of slavery be just one of many historic facts, which – yes – happened in the past, but – like rotary phones – just died out, and should be just forgotten. Why? Because, IF the slavery would be “not a big deal, other countries had it, too, and it did not play any major role in the history of the States”, then “there is no reason” to focus on the millions of people of color who for decades have been purposely held at the fringes of the political, social and economic life. Hence, “why bother”, “we all are equal”, and “if they don’t have what we have, it is not our fault”. Every time when someone says “slavery is not important any more, we can forget it happened”, what he or she actually means is: “I hate when any resources go to help politically, economically, or socially disadvantaged people to advance their political, economic, and social status, because I don’t want to share anything with them”.
If Ben Shapiro blew somebody's mind, that mind might have been not very strong (e.g. easily blown). I guess, apple and the tree situation. http://the3dforce.blogspot.com/2017/11/disinformation.html